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item on the senate's agenda today. they hope to end debate on chuck hagel's nomination and take one step closer to confirming a new defense secretary. but the vote foreclosure fell two votes short of the 60 required. that means they cannot move ahead and tonight mr. hagel's nomination is in jeopardy. ari? >> you have republicans who want to subject the leader of the armed forces to a super majority that we haven't seen before. number one, i'll tell you, larry, this is not going to stick, this is not going to hold. this is theater in washington. the republicans will relent because i don't think they want to leave us without a leader during war time. they are free to object and vote no but let's be clear, what they're doing now is bottling this up -- >> leon panetta is going to stay on. >> he's available. >> he may have to stay on for another year the way this thing is going. >> let's be clear. i think reasonable people should be able to agree on this. this is no way to pick a team, this is not in the constitution, which only has super majorities for certain specific instances for ove
-offs for national security and we just can't go there. >> does chuck hagel get this? can he do the job in your opinion? is he aware of these argue ents? >> i certainly believe so. i think he has talked about a bloated defense enterprise. i certainly hope he will take some of these issues on if he is confirmed. >> once again just to conclude and we appreciate your time very, very much. we can protect our national security as we must but at the same time we can slim down the defense department, we can make some cuts. that's what you're saying? >> i believe that's what we can do if we take the cuts in the right place. >> michelle flournoy, former undersecretary of defense under president obama, we appreciate it very much. thank you. >> now, folks, prepare yourself, america the mighty, ann coulter is about to join us. there's a lot that happened today that we'll have to ask her about that include new revelations about benz and the controversial drone program. you don't want to miss this discussion. ♪ if loving you is wrong ♪ i don't wanna be right [ record scratch ] what?! it's not bad for you
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